Simagic P1000 Long Term Review

I’ve spent a HUGE amount of time reviewing these pedals. Partly because they’re so super complex, but also because I had some issues to overcome. I’ve been through every discipline of driving and almost every configuration of these pedals in search of perfection. And although I’ve landed in a sweet spot, it’s not what I would have expected… I’m Laurence, welcome to the channel

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1. Introduction

On the left you’ll see all the sections in this video. I’ve put timestamped links to each section in the description below.

Simagic is a trail blazer of a company. They are very present in drifting amongst other motorsports. You can’t do much in iRacing without seeing their name on screen either. We know that their force feedback is up there with the best of them, and I thoroughly enjoyed the P2000 pedals as they gave me almost everything I needed from a high end pedal set. I even preferred the P2000 pedals to the Heusinkveld Sprints which are renowned to be some of the best pedals in sim racing. So the benchmark for the P1000 pedals is high in ways, all be they a mid range offering. Let’s give a quick run through of the accessories which are available for this pedal set as it can be quite overwhelming and confusing. First let’s start with the elastomers and springs. They offer an upgrade kit called the P-ORP & P-ORP(H). The P-ORP(H) kit is specifically for the Hydraulic upgrade which we’ll also cover in this review.

There’s a hydraulic Throttle System or P-HTS

The hydraulic brake is called the P-HYS. If you use the P1000i inverted pedals, you’ll need the P-HYSi hydraulic brake so that your brake fluid doesn’t leak everywhere. Then there’s the rumble motors. Rumble motors allow you to feel things like ABS, Traction Control, wheel lockups, slips, engine vibration, etc, through your feet. There are three rumble motor options: The HPR which stands for Haptic Pedal Reactor, The P-HPR Neo Rumble Haptic Pedal Reactor, and the yet to be released miniature version off the HPR.

Are you still with me? There’s a long throttle pedal option

There’s an underglow system called the Sim Ray-Bar

There’s an RGB heel rest upgrade called the Sim Ray-Heel Stop

There’s an inversion kit which allows you to invert these pedals. That’s just an indication of what we’re dealing with here. The down side is that this review took over a year to complete. The upside is that you don’t need to figure out what accessories you’ll need, as long as you watch this review. This pedal set really does try to cater to absolutely everyone.

There’s no lateral adjustment in the pedals so you’re stuck with this spacing. You also can’t adjust the pedal faces laterally. However, I didn’t find this to be an issue. I would have liked to have had the longer throttle pedal though as that would have made hell & toe a little more manageable. If you buy the 3 pedal set but want to remove the clutch and put the brake where the clutch is, you’ll need a little extension cable so I wasn’t able to test that configuration.

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2. First Impressions

The P1000 pedals, at a glance, sit very close to the P2000 adding sleeker styling, rumble motors, integrated electronics, RGB options, pedal upgrades galore, load cell and hall sensor input registration. Honestly I thought they were replacing the P2000s at first. And for some, these will be every bit as good, but I’ll explain that in more detail in a later section. These are beautiful. Arguably the best looking of the simagic pedals lineup. The baseplate is clever and easy to set up. The lack of assembly for the electronics and cables is simply beautiful. I got some accessories at the start, but I got several upgrades over time also, including the upgraded throttle pedal and even the hydraulic brake pedal. Honestly I hoped that these would be every bit as good as the P2000 as they seem much more refined and thought out. One REALLY nice innovation that I spotted straight away was the ability to rotate or pivot the angle of the pedal faces independently to the pedal arms. This means that you can really push into the pedal set rather than adjusting the way you drive to suit the pedal face angles. I’d love to see this adjustment on all pedals from all manufacturers.

3. Price

All of the prices I’m about to show you are from Simwear.eu based in Europe but they give a good indication for worldwide pricing after all taxes are taken into account. Those of you in the USA will be happy to know that your prices will in some cases be significantly cheaper. I’m focusing primarily on the 3 pedal set in this review, but the 2 pedal set starts from as little as 509euro. The 3 pedal set is only slightly more expensive at 599euro, so it’s worth getting the 3 pedal set in my opinion. 

Each accessory in their own right is not that expensive, but the costs do add up. Here’s a quick summary of my ideal configuration for these pedals: The 3 pedal set is 599euro as mentioned. I wouldn’t recommend these pedals without the upgraded springs, so that’s another 30euro. And for heel & toe shifting and throttle comfort, the long throttle pedal is nice and comes in at 50euro. That brings your total to 670euro which is straying into high end pedals pricing. And we haven’t even added haptics yet. The haptic pedal reactors are excellent and you’ll need one for the brake and one for the throttle so at 79euro each, that brings your total to 830. Don’t bother with the clutch haptic motor as your foot spends very little time touching that.  You’ll need a power supply for the haptics, which neatly plugs into the base plate. That brings you to 850 euro. I haven’t even added the fancy lights yet. Costs really add up but it’s nice that you can upgrade over time.

4. Installation – Hardware

Hardware installation for a basic setup is really nice. Pedals come assembled and all the electronics connected. The heel rest takes a bit of fiddling to get installed but once it’s on, you don’t need to worry about it anymore. All the lights and haptics accessories couldn’t be easier to install, with readily available ports to hook everything up.

Replacing the springs and elastomers is not the most intuitive or enjoyable experience. It’s doable but can be very frustrating, especially when you’re trying to make the brake pedal quite stiff.

5. Installation – Software

Simagic’s software is decent for calibration and lighting effects, but for the haptics you really want to be using simhub. SimHub allows you to configure far more than Simagic’s software can. I would just jump straight to SimHub, to be honest.  When setting up the haptics, less is more. Set up the subtle feelings that you want, especially ABS and lockups. Note that iRacing doesn’t report Traction Control so if you race predominantly in iRacing, you might think twice about getting a haptic motor for the throttle pedal.

6. Throttle

The basic throttle is decent. It’s quite light. I’d love for it to be heavier. That’s where the dampened hydraulic throttle comes in. And it does do its job quite well. It certainly feels better than the default throttle but it costs an extra $140 which is saucy. It has nice adjustment to control the weight of the pedal but as you go heavier, it has a bad habit of slowing the pedal down so much that it actually comes away from the mounting rest at the back, which causes a metal on metal noise during playful throttle usage. Other than the noise this wasn’t an issue for me, and it only happened during spirited rally driving, drifting and while driving front wheel drive cars. Long story short, avoid the upgraded throttle, and make do with an average throttle. Otherwise, simply buy the P2000 pedals.

7. Clutch

The clutch again is good for a mid range pedal. It’s fine for how we use sims these days. It’s functional and comfortable. There’s a clear clutch bite point although this is not adjustable. There are some springs provided with the pedal set. I settled on this red spring which gives a decent resistance. The pedal face for the clutch is very narrow, which is unusual. I didn’t find this to be an issue though. It actually saves space. This clutch was well able to withstand the abuse I gave it.

8. Brake

You can make these pedals feel like a spongy road car, all the way to a sporty race car. You can’t quite get that rock hard F1 feeling so if that’s what you’re looking for, these pedals aren’t for you. This pedal is where the money is for most pedal sets and let me come straight out and say that the load cell they use for the p1000 is poor quality. I even got them to send me replacement parts as the load cell readings were inconsistent and the drop off was horrible. While the new parts did improve the load cell fade slightly, they didn’t fix it. So for example, when I braked to 70%, the input would immediately begin to drop off even though I was still applying the same amount of pressure. This was horrible. It wasn’t solely caused by the load cell though as these little elastomers that Simagic and Moza are using these days are a waste of time for track racing. They also introduce inconsistency which affected my lap times greatly. The P500 pedals also suffer with this problem. I got some play in the P1000 brake after a few hours‘ use, so make sure all the bolts are securely fastened.

I spent a long long time adjusting and trying to see the best in these pedals but eventually, I gave up on the load cell functionality completely. I couldn’t get a smooth brake curve no matter what I tried, with either the normal brake or the hydraulic. Luckily, this pedal set also provides a hall sensor reading which is far more accurate and smooth, but may require some messing with the brake input graphs to get them to register more intuitively. The reason I recommended buying the 30euro spring upgrade kit is because the springs are a far better experience than those little elastomer pucks. Long story short, if you’re looking for fast and consistent lap times, it’s possible but only with the hall sensor and spring stacks. That applies to both the load cell and hydraulic setups. The hydraulic upgrade adds little or nothing for me other than looking impressive. Of course, it feels nice under the foot but that doesn’t translate to on track pace for me.

Heel toe braking is doable but not really comfortable as you cannot move the throttle pedal further away from you independently of the brake. The longer throttle pedal would make this more achievable though.

Again, my conclusion here is that the P2000 completely eclipses the performance of this brake, no matter what the configuration is. Please also note that this is just my opinion after the most extensive pedal review I’ve ever done. If your opinion is different, please feel free to comment constructively even if you don’t agree with a word I’ve said. The comments on this video are just as important as the video itself.

9. Haptics

Here’s the cheat code. These are by far the best part about these pedals. These reactor motors are lovely. I feel very little delay. They’re so close to your foot that you feel every detail and when tuned nicely, they don’t upset my wife in the other room while i’m using them despite still making noise while activated.

Tune the haptics with SimHub. Simagic’s software allows for basic effects but it’s worth investing a little time to get a good simhub profile going. These haptics are so good that companies like geezer3d are making adapter brackets for almost every pedal set there is, including Simucube’s Active Pedals. That’s crazy, isn’t it? I’ll link to those brackets in the comments. But simagic really nailed it with these motors. One reason for that is that these motors move in and out in a linear movement, similar to a bass shaker but no amps, less cables and far far better looking. Traditional rumble motors rotate an off balance flywheel which is less reactive and doesn’t feel quite as good, in my opinion.

10. Final Thought

There’s a lot to unpack here. These pedals are mid range and offer lots of accessories. However, by the time you add all the accessories you’re into high end pedal pricing, but still lack high end pedal performance. To be fair, I did find settings which allowed me to be on my regular pace, but there was endless chasing and configuration involved which left a sour taste for me. 75% of the combinations I tried left me longing for more. I may have gotten these pedals as a review sample, but you guys are spending your real world money. And despite how well packaged and convenient these pedals are, they fall short of the mark. For example, the Fanatec CSL Elite v2 pedals’ brake is FAR superior to even the most tricked out P1000 brake pedal setup at a third of the price. Granted, the throttle and clutch on those are pretty poor. But the SimForge pedals give a far more mature feeling at a far lower price tag. Even the Asetek La Prima pedals outshine them. The SimLab XP1 pedals are cheaper and better. The list goes on. For perspective though, these pedals are certainly better than the Fanatec Clubsport V3 pedals.

There is a place in the market for these pedals. They’re mid range, after all. And they’re fine for drifting, trucking, rally and hobby driving. But if an esports pro asked me for a pedal set recommendation, I simply couldn’t recommend these with confidence unless I know that that person enjoys the feel and their pace doesn’t suffer. And let’s be realistic here too. These are not bad pedals. I eventually found a configuration that allowed me to be on my regular pace. It’s just that the bar for pedals in this price range is a lot higher than what the P1000s deliver. Where the P1000s offer looks, convenience and upgradeability, they lack the grunt that hardcore sim racers want and need. Those of you who have bought them and are happy shouldn’t feel guilty about that. There’s no need to upgrade unless you’re having the issues I’m having. If you’re struggling with trail braking and consistency, switch to the springs and switch to the hall sensors like I did.

You can buy accessories to make the brake and throttle feel almost as good as the P2000, but at a higher cost. The clutch on the P1000 is better and the form factor is much much nicer than that of the P2000. But the upgrades for the P1000 don’t cut it for me. I’ve not focused on the lighting upgrades. And yes, they’re really beautiful. But it’s nothing you can’t achieve with a cheap led strip from ali express. It’s certainly not worth 130euro to me.

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